Curse

Xioden · Sep 19, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I have to agree with Evilsod here. Mind spells don't cut it when running an elite energy management skill can let you spam spells constantly without having to worry about what your energy is at, and without having to worry about exhaustion building up.

Even if you swap to an energy set to make sure your energy is higher than your opponents is, you can still really only use this so many times before exhaustion becomes a factor.

The mind burn setup is outright not worth it, if you want burning that badly hit them with a MoR and then just attacking normally and using fireball when it's charged up will produce better results.

Mind freeze, as mentioned previously, Water trident could be put to much better use here, wouldn't have to deal with exhaustion, and you have a number of other snares already.

Mind Shock is probably the best of the 3 as already stated.. But it's still not worth it's weight. Running an elite energy management here would produce more overall damage across the board, and with a number of spike skills already present the extra damage from Mind Shock is not needed, if it's only there for the KD gale and shock work just as well.

[Edit]Played a few matches, and bringing down a target from full health really only works against squishies on teams without monks. The amount of energy you burn through for a combo also can leave you fairly helpless afterward. So at least running with Mind shock is viable, and I never really ran a whole lot using an air ele, so as far as I can tell they both work, Focusing more on spike with Mind shock, and more with dps/dot using an elite energy management. But again, against a team with a monk I'd choose more dps/dot hands down. (Most RA monk builds can negate the majority of your 25-40 point chain with a single 5-10 point heal).

Xpl0iter · Sep 20, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

You see, it is like taking Ob Flame with you which has no condition to add with its damage. A close example. Spammable, and exhaustion piles up. Try to test it before going for your attractive mind elites. As someone said above, they do look good with monsters. That is all.

Sometimes i do wonder what the creators of these skills really intended when they were naming it.. I mean Is it inflicting damage to their mind.. as it shows in Skill pictures too? If yes, why is armour effecting it? Just wondering..

Ozric · Sep 21, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Xpl0iter

Sometimes i do wonder what the creators of these skills really intended when they were naming it.. I mean Is it inflicting damage to their mind.. as it shows in Skill pictures too? If yes, why is armour effecting it? Just wondering..

Because in between the Ele's wand and the foe's soft grey matter, there is usually some type of armor, and elemental damage is far more often than not held subject to that.

Hey I'm not arguing that any damage elite is going to be better than an Energy Storage one, given how much trouble maintaining the energy pool is. But it's not like I'm never going to play with the damage dealing Elites because of it.

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

... Lightning Surge anyone?

And yeah Evil, I think I mentioned that in this thread already.

ok off topic but I just now checked out some of the new skills added for Nightfall. Ooh, look at this!! If stuff on the battlefield isn't dying then Necros have yet another way to get energy!

And for the Ele's,..umm, uh,.. we get some sort of new healing sig,.....

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Weren't we looking for some help for our primary attribute?

Luciora · Sep 22, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

No way Ozric, we don't need no stinking damage. Just give us a way to heal ourselves better

I wasn't very happy when I saw that, they come up with these nice little combos for the other classes and what combo do we get? Help you heal!

No offence ANet, but that would be why there are MONKS in the game! Ah well I'll just be content with knowing I can send in the greatly improved henchies to kill stuff

/sarcasm